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American Unexceptionalism Podcast

Global Lessons in Fighting Religious Nationalism

American Unexceptionalism is a limited-series podcast from Dr. Matthew D. Taylor and the Rev. Susan Hayward about what Americans can learn from people around the world who have resisted religious nationalism and authoritarianism.

The series turns the idea of American exceptionalism on its head, asking: What can we learn from others about protecting democracy when the stakes are high? How have Buddhists in Sri Lanka, Muslims in Turkey, and Christians in South Korea confronted religious nationalism in their own contexts—and what lessons can we draw from their struggles to restrain its power?

Through conversations with scholars and activists, we explore how these movements unfolded, how they mirror or differ from the American experience, and what practical insights they offer for those working to defend pluralism and democratic life in the United States today.

About the Podcast Hosts

Matthew D. Taylor, Ph.D., is the Christian scholar at the Institute for Islamic, Christian, and Jewish Studies in Baltimore, where he examines the intersections of American Christianity, Islam, extremism, and religious politics. His books include The Violent Take It by Force (Broadleaf, 2024), on the Christian movement threatening U.S. democracy, and Scripture People (Cambridge, 2023). His current work explores how communities resist religious nationalism. Taylor holds a Ph.D. from Georgetown University and an M.A. from Fuller Seminary.

The Rev. Susan Hayward is a minister in the United Church of Christ and a specialist on religion, peace, and human rights. She is a research fellow at Georgetown University’s Berkley Center for Religion, Peace, and World Affairs. From 2007 to 2021, she worked with the U.S. Institute of Peace, partnering with faith-based actors to transform violence in Sri Lanka, Myanmar, and Colombia, and to advance religious literacy in U.S. diplomacy. More recently, she helped establish Harvard Divinity School’s Religion and Public Life program, developing training for ethically engaged, religiously literate leadership.